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Eastleigh Ukip : We won’t stand aside for Maria

November 28, 2012
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Nigel Farage at Costa Coffee Eastleigh

Farage and Lyon at Eastleigh’s Costa caff

 

Eastleigh Ukip members have angrily rejected a suggestion from Conservative big wigs that the two parties should form an electoral pact in the next general election

Conservative  vice-chairman Michael Fabricant, has proposed the Euro sceptic  party should  stand aside in 2015 in return for an ‘in-out’ referendum on EU membership arguing that the  deal could win the Tories an  additional 20 to 40 a marginal seats.

Although the idea has been rejected by the Conservative party leadership, it has found some support among Tory backbenchers.

One key marginal is Eastleigh, where only 568 votes separated the Conservatives from the Lib Dems in 2005 and where there could be  a by- election next year if current MP Chris Huhne is forced to stand down as a result of his forthcoming trial on charges of perverting the course of justice – should he be found guilty

In 2005  the Conservative candidate Conor Burns – now MP for Bournemouth West- talked about his narrow  loss to Ukip in a blog post unambiguously entitled  ‘Blame Ukip’ where he said of Eastleigh’s Ukip supporters:

” I know from talking to many of them that they would otherwise have been Conservative voters.  They almost certainly secured the election of Chris Huhne.”

Although some Tories may welcome the idea of Ukip standing aside, Nigel Farage the Ukip leader, certainly did not, saying his party was ‘at war’ with the conservatives.

 

His view was echoed by the Ukip Parish Councillor for Bishopstoke Martin Lyon.

Lyon is one of two Ukip Parish Councillors in the Borough and while there has been speculation that Farage might stand in Eastleigh should a bye-election be called, Lyon has been tipped as a potential Ukip Parliamentary Party Candidate for Eastleigh for 2015.

Cllr Lyon told Eastleigh News:

“As a recently elected UKIP councillor, I do not need to make a pact with the Tories, or Labour or the Liberal-Democrats”.

“There is no way I would step down to ease the path of a Tory
candidate.”

Maria Hutchings, likely Conservative candidate, can’t count on Ukip support

The row coincides with new evidence that public opinion is hardening against the EU. Pollsters Com Res have published a survey in The Independent today which reveals that 54 per cent of Brits want to see the country out of the EU – provided it can keep its trade arrangements with other member states -while only 36 per cent want to stay in.

See also: Farage cat tale snares May



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7 Responses to Eastleigh Ukip : We won’t stand aside for Maria

  1. Ray Turner on November 28, 2012 at 11:04 am

    I remember the Tories floating a similar idea past me earlier this year, re the local elections. Floating is absolutely the right word here. There was no pressure from the Tories.

    The suggestion [n.b. it was only a suggestion, the gentlest of hints and there was absolutely no pressure. Sorry if I've LABOURed that point & sorry for the pun!), that if I let the Tories have a free run at Jane Welsh at Borough level I'd be allowed a free run at the Lib Dem candidate on the Town Council by-election...

    My point [finally] is that this idea of forming pacts with potential also-rans in order to have a clearer run at the enemy appears to be a standard Tory tactic…

  2. maureen on November 28, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Who cares what the UKIP hierarchy say?, it will be up to voters where they put their cross. UKIP supporters will have the choice of voting UKIP and getting LibDem or casting their vote for a candidate who can win i.e. anybody but UKIP!!

  3. UKgonetothedogs on November 28, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    People Vote UKIP for these primary reasons:

    1. Other main stream parties are on the cusp of making themselves political irrelevant by not listening.

    2. Lack of meaningful employment -i.e. contract, part time, low paid, temporary,

    3. Immigration and the impact this has on Housing, jobs, pay, infrastructure etc etc.

    4. The housing crisis has merely been exacerbated by the BTL investor…who see Europe as the holy grail for keep occupancy rates high!

    5. Lower housing costs both rental and mortgages mean more disposable income and more people prepared to work for lower wages.

    Yes we need a referendum on Europe – but of more of a concern is people never voted for it in the first place!

    The Political Elite have much to answer for:

  4. Peter Stewart on November 28, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Maureen, you ask: “Who cares what the UKIP hierarchy say?” Answer: Conservative leaders because they know if UKIP stands at the next General Election, the Conservatives will lose!

    UKIP attracts three times more Conservatives than Labour or LibDem, according to Prof Curtiss of Strathclyde University. Our figures support this.

    I believe people fall into two camps: Head or Heart. Conservatives are Head governed, while LibDems and Labour are Heart governed.

    I believe UKIP is very Head governed which is why it attracts the most independent Conservatives, Labour & LibDem candidates, members and voters.

    Thus UKIP splits the Conservative vote and therefore in every Conservative marginal seat (including Eastleigh) Conservative candidates are terrified UKIP will stand. They care ENORMOUSLY what the UKIP hierarchy says. Most Conservative defeats since 1994 are due to UKIP either splitting the Conservative vote, or causing disgruntled Conservatives to abstain.

    Finally you assert that UKIP cannot win. On Friday the Rotherham by-election results are announced. Then we shall see if the pattern you have correctly noticed has been broken or whether we must wait a little longer.

    In my opinion, there is a massive shift away from Heart to Head in Britain. Either the Conservative Party accepts this and adopts UKIP’s core policies and wins, or it continues to support the EU, thereby alienating its core supporters and perishes, in which case UKIP will continue to grow at its expense until UKIP has achieved its first MP.

  5. Sam Snook on November 30, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    Well done!the UKIP!!!team
    its postal votes that win
    -elections.
    Sam Snook

    • Pete Stewart on December 2, 2012 at 5:58 pm

      So UKIP didn’t win in Rotherham but came 2nd with almost 22%. Clearly the trend is upwards towards victory sooner or later.

      Here in Eastleigh (a LibDem stronghold) I predict we will NOT see the same collapse in the LibDem vote as we saw in Rotherham.

      However I think it will revert to the same finely balanced marginal status of 2005 and the victor will have to thank UKIP.

      As a matter of interest, what is Maria’s stance on leaving the EU?

  6. Sam Snook on December 5, 2012 at 10:48 am

    Lib Dems suffered a fresh blow as
    the number of Lib Dem councillors
    fell below 3,000-for the first since
    the party was formed 24years ago.

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