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Stoneham development plans spark local protest

November 1, 2014
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Local people in Eastleigh say historic and beautiful parkland will be lost forever if developers are allowed to build 1,100 homes at Stoneham Park.

The land used to form part of the Fleming estate and borders grounds that were originally landscaped by Capability Brown in the 18th Century.

Eastleigh Borough Council has identified the site that includes a sports field and farmland as suitable for development and Romsey based developers Highwood Group have a planning application pending.

Highwood staged a public exhibition of their plans last week but members of the “Save Stoneham Park” action group say they are still unhappy and a small number staged a protest meeting at Doncaster Farm .

Protest leader Pat Ford told Eastleigh News:

“It’s our history and should be our children’s future. The area should be enhanced not destroyed by concrete.”

Veteran campaigner Sam Snook agreed adding:

“Traffic is a major issue in the town, they are building more houses but we are overloaded now”

Local councillors did not want to comment on plans as an application has not yet been formally submitted but a spokesman for Eastleigh Borough Council said:

”The Council has received a pre-application for 1100 homes together with schools, open spaces and community facilities on land south of Chestnut Avenue.

“Issues including traffic and transport measures and the provision of medical services will be considered as part of the application.

“We would encourage local people to provide comments on these plans to The Highwood Group, who are leading proposals on the land, before an application is submitted to the Council. “

Highwood Group said in a statement:

“We recognise that originally the land was classified as parkland however over the years parts of the site have been sold and developed for various uses such as a golf driving range and sports facilities.

“The team at Highwood are working hard to ensure the development respects as much of the sites heritage as possible whilst also delivering much needed housing in the borough.”

“We are also looking closely at the impact on the local highway network however we are confident we can deliver a comprehensive improvement that will benefit the wider community.”

The developers say they will be holding a further public exhibition in December to update residents on the plans and listen to their feedback.

Pat Ford said:

“We understand there is a need for local housing but at what cost? Is this a price the people of Eastleigh are prepared to pay?”

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52 Responses to Stoneham development plans spark local protest

  1. Stuart on November 1, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    I am utterly dismayed at the possibility that Stoneham Park, designed by Capability Brown, is once again in danger of being turned into concrete by Eastleigh Borough Council.

    It is a haven for wildlife with its rich flower meadows, large old trees and water features. If you are lucky, you may see deer as well as kingfishers and kestrels along with numerous other wildlife species.

    English Heritage and the National Trust are planning a major celebration of the life and work of Lancelot Capability Brown, in his tercentenary year of 2016. But once again Eastleigh spectacularly fails to value or capitalise on it’s own heritage. It prefers to consider destroying the last surviving Capability Brown landscape in the Southampton area for the sake of more commuter homes and more gridlock on our roads.

    Whilst other councils will be celebrating and treasuring their heritage in 2016, ours might be sending in the diggers and concrete mixers.

  2. Eastleigh voter on November 1, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    It should be pointed out that Lib Dem controlled EBC are the owners of Doncaster Farm in this development and are actively promoting this proposal THAT WHEN THE APPLICATION COMES IN WILL BE HOSTILE AND PREMATURE TO THEIR LOCAL PLAN 2011-2029!
    They REFUSE to consider more acceptable sustainable sites in the borough.
    Look at what residents in Botley are doing! Taking EBC to court.
    EBC have failed all of us by failing to have an adopted local plan in place by Jan 1st 2011 or having a 5 year housing land supply in place…Iresponsible comes to mind! But its all politics I guess!
    It is time for Eastleigh residents to wake up and NOT vote Lib Dem.
    They are destroying are borough for their own desires!!!

  3. rigel on November 1, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    If anyone is interested in helping to stop this call me on 07969808247

  4. j smith on November 1, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Leave the green land alone no more houses the traffic is really bad now it would make eastleigh grid locked

  5. Jim Saunders on November 2, 2014 at 2:02 am

    This is the tip of the iceberg
    LibDems plan more than 10,000+ houses all over the Borough!!

    The fact that the LibDems are not listening to the people of Eastleigh South is a disgrace.
    Already Eastleigh’s traffic is in Chaos and sewage systems are at breaking point. The current Infrastructure cannot handle this amount of new homes but the LibDem/Conservative coalition government continues to force this upon us.

    Stoneham Park
    To even consider the destruction of such a beautiful green space with 1000s years of history citing an artificially inflated need for housing is indeed a travesty!

    What is the Local Councillor doing for his Constituents?
    NOTHING!
    LibDem Councillor for Eastleigh South PAUL BICKNELL who is also chair of the Eastleigh Local Area Committee has refused to speak up for the people of Eastleigh South through fear of going against his Puppet Master Keith House (Head of Eastleigh Borough Council).

    A councillor should at all times represent the people and NOT the leader of their Political party!

    It is disgusting!
    Vote UKIP next May and send the LibDems their marching orders.

    • Eastleigh Xpress on November 2, 2014 at 1:22 pm

      To be fair Keith House said he was keen for local councillors to comment on the issue of development at Stoneham Park but they, themselves decided they didn’t want to because,they said, that this particular application had not yet been submitted and they did not want to “pre-determine” the application.

      Keith House was willing to contribute to the debate and I’m pretty sure he would have been happy to appear on cam but couldn’t do so as he was in the States last week.

      • Jim Saunders on November 2, 2014 at 3:29 pm

        I hear what you are saying Steve but it is all for show.
        Those councillors are all whipped and have a line they cannot cross.
        They are nothing but tokens.

        Would it be too much for them to offer an opinion or research the opinions of local people and speak for those people?
        That is the job of a Councillor, to represent the people who elect them.

        All of us know that Eastleigh LibDem councillors speak only when Keith House allows them too and say only what Keith House tells them too. Remember that video: when your guy outside old council office tried asking for opinions about the Sainsburys Eastleigh Rec thing? I note The now MP Thornton was particularly sneery and arrogant!

        This is not Democracy,
        In my mind it is a vile Dictatorship.

        Clearly the people of South ward most affected, hate the Idea of Stoneham dev. after 20 years of LibDem promises not to build south of Chestnut.

        BROKEN PROMISES
        Nothing but LibDem Lies!

        It is the job of our councillors (who we elect) to listen to us and represent us.
        Power crazed LibDems in their arrogance hate democracy as it means they do not have a 100% total grip on control!

      • Eastleigh voter on November 2, 2014 at 3:31 pm

        Worth a look at this link on the rules of predetermination.
        One the LD’s hide behind.
        It was scrapped in the Localism act 2012.http://www.localism-agenda.com/2012/01/abolishing-predetermination-what-it-really-means/

        • Eastleigh Xpress on November 2, 2014 at 6:54 pm

          Thanks for the link, best explanation of changes I’ve read.
          I previously challenged an ELAC Cllr to get off the fence re the proposed Sainsbury’s development (which I hear could be back on the table btw) and pointed out that he wasn’t bound by the need to follow the old rules on predetermination.
          The Cllr said that the changes hadn’t been tested in court and he had no intention of being the first case.
          It is still possible that a disgruntled developer could decide that his application had not received an impartial and objective hearing because of statements or previous actions of councillors prior to the application hearing.
          Although Cllrs can now say what they like about an application they still have to give it a fair hearing ….it’s a bit of a grey area.
          Previous statements may not in themselves be evidence of bias but that might not stop complaints.
          Perhaps it’s easier to err on the side of caution and say nothing?
          In this case of course local councillors have already shown they are broadly in favour of development on this site by voting in favour of it’s inclusion on the Local Plan so it would seem likely that they would approve of these plans.
          As local Lib Dem Cllrs have been voted back in since voting in favour of the local plan they could also be forgiven for thinking the majority in Eastleigh South back development.
          Still, another local election in May, let’s see what happens then.

          • Eastleigh voter on November 3, 2014 at 7:26 am

            As the Lib Dem Councillors on EBC have predetermined this proposal and any application by voting in favour of this site in the EBC local plan 2011 – 2029 that has massive resident opposition ( So much for consultation and democracy) then they shoul ALL declare an interest at the LAC and discharge themselves from voting on this application when it comes in.

            • Eastleigh Xpress on November 3, 2014 at 8:37 am

              I guess having established what sites are in the Local Plan they still have to consider each application on it’s own merits. Of course the Local Plan hasn’t been adopted yet and this application is not dependent on that.

              • Jim Saunders UKIP on November 4, 2014 at 1:28 am

                Eastleigh South Ward Cllr and chair of ELAC Paul Bicknell admits he has voted in favour of Stoneham via Twitter. He thinks that because it is public record that he voted in favour of this, that makes it OK.

      • rigel on November 10, 2014 at 8:03 am

        Who was he in the USA with ?
        Am I asking a Journalist ?

  6. Morning flight on November 2, 2014 at 3:35 am

    How wonderful the work of Capability Brown is finally to gain recognition after a couple of hundred years, even if it is to prevent offspring of local families staying within the borough. I wish you well in your newly found campaign to preserve British history.

    • Stuart Jebbitt on November 2, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      Yes, I’m sure the Highwood group have only got the best interests of local families in mind as they draw up their plans. I was priced out of the area I grew up in myself (Camberley in Surrey). Even on an average f/t salary I couldn’t even have afforded the smallest 1 bed flat, despite loads of developments going up all around me – hence I had no option but to leave or end up never having a property.
      The same process will happen in Eastleigh. This won’t be for local people, this will be for big time Profit. There will be a tiny percentage of ‘affordable’ homes and that will be negotiated down to the minimum.

  7. Bernard on November 2, 2014 at 8:44 am

    These LIB DEMS have got to be stopped; Eastleigh Borough is already overcrowded yet they have agreed to let vast areas be concreted in the name of profit with no thought of those who already live in the borough. Our roads are shocking; schools full to the brim, it takes ages to see your doctor and the air is getting so polluted. Its like there is a plan to shove all the housing into the area around the solent north to winchester but north of there there is loads of space populated by rich people. You could drop whole towns up there. I am waiting for a fence to be put up to keep us plebs in!!!

    And all the while those smug FIB dems do want they want in the face of voter apathy!!!

    Businesses and those who can will leave Eastleigh to its charity shops!!

  8. Sam on November 2, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    You Gov. Increasing the number of available Homes.
    Just over 635,000 homes in England are empty, and around 216,000
    of those have been empty for over 6months.Stop!!!!! building on greenfield sites in the South East, it’s over overcrowded.
    Sam

  9. paul bicknell on November 2, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    For the record at 2 full council meetings debating the local plan I spoke in favour of Eastleigh’s Local plan and voted in favour of it. No secrets here as both were a recorded vote. Some of the people featured in your video were there.
    Councils have to provide for current and future housing need. They don’t do these plans for fun, they have to. That is why Test Valley, Fareham, Winchester and others are all going through the same process.
    Previous governments have tried to impose from Whitehall but currently the situation is local councils have to plan.

    Eastleigh has laid out it’s plan publically which will be decided on by an appointed governemnt inspector.
    However the real question here is where would the political opponents, who oppose everything at every turn, put the houses?
    None of them have had the honesty to say to the public what they would do and where they would build houses, despite convienently saying “we agree we need more houses”.

    • Eastleigh voter on November 3, 2014 at 9:38 am

      Local plans are supposed under the Localism Act to involve and implement the wishes of residents as well.
      NOT just the dictate of the local authority.
      This does not happen in Eastleigh.

    • Matthew Sharfman on November 3, 2014 at 1:57 pm

      Well whilst Paul Bicknell feels like talking maybe he could explain how many of the 10,000+ homes are for locals? According to Eastleigh Borough Council documents over 50% of the new homes will be occupied by migrants! (Not necessarily immigrants).  Who defines housing need? Where does the Strategic Market Housing Assessment come from? That’s right, the unelected body www.push.gov.uk which is a consortium of Councilors and Developers and other interested parties… Between them they have decided that Eastleigh and Fareham is to grow by the largest percentage whilst Southampton and Portsmouth gets off relatively unscathed.

      So Paul Bicknell who’s housing need are we trashing Eastleigh for?

      Although I am no politician I have an answer for Paul on where to put the homes. Put them where they are needed! Do not increase migration to Eastleigh which will only result in more commuters to Portsmouth, Southampton etc etc.

      How is congestion between junction 5-7? Didn’t we get the national award of WORST tailgaters? Surely this can only get better with 10,000 homes plus?

      And don’t think of using the argument about the Community Infrastructure Levy being the savior to our communities problems. At best the CIL money will alleviate some of the issues created by the additional housing. In fact my recent Focus pointed out how the money was being squandered by improving the dangerous junction of Mortimers Lane. Now this junction is fine for car use, what it really means is that it will make it easier for Heavy Goods Vehicles to use this road. I’m sure the people of Fair Oak will thank you for the additional HGV traffic this will create. Future Air Quality Management Area?

      The fact that our Councilors have been working with these developers to plan so many homes in little Eastleigh when the current lack of infrastructure causes misery is incredulous. Wouldn’t be surprised if our Councilors go the way of Portsmouth City Council and start debating an equivalent to the London Congestion Charge. I asked Keith House and Mike Thornton (on Twitter) to rule out the possibility of a congestion charge for Eastleigh. The only response I got was from Mike which was “Congestion Charge?”.  Is that a politicians way of saying NO COMMENT??

      • Eastleigh Voter on November 3, 2014 at 7:52 pm

        The site to go for is Allington Lane. As per the MDA about 10 years ago that was ONLY rejected as not enough Brown Field sites were included. This is THE site recommended by EBC’s OWN Planning and Policy Design Manager on many occasions as the MOST suitable site for 5,000 plus new home. It would have even gated a J6 on the M27 that is much needed. If this had been adopted none of the VERY unsustainable sites and sites already given dodgy planning approval would on stream today. This is a political decision MADE OUTSIDE of ANY Public CONSULTATION.

      • rigel on November 3, 2014 at 9:47 pm

        The arguments of infrastructure are valid but they will not win out because both EBC and HCC will just promise provision and then not deliver. it is the inflated and self detonating housing need concept which provides the traction, through developer contributions lib dems win elections with amenity provision.

        The land is not EBC’s and HCC’s it belongs to us and more accurately our children.
        Indebted organizations must grow their income base to pay the interest let alone the principle.

        The House is built on sand , and the long awaited tide is coming in.

    • Steve willet on November 16, 2014 at 11:03 am

      I agree we need more housing. But what are the developers and councils providing to the local area, with all the money they are making. Let’s face it’s all about money, which is fine, if some of that money, gets used locally around the housing site. What real plans do the council have for improving roads and local schools adjacent to the development? And I don’t mean purposed plans. I mean real plans, set in concrete. I’d be interested if there any at all.

  10. rigel on November 2, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    will you be at the public examination cllr bicknell , tuesday seems popular

    as I said in my previous post if people are interested in the fight they can call me 07969808247

  11. Sam on November 3, 2014 at 12:52 am

    New figures show that Minister have identified enough surplus public land, such as empty offices, unused storage or empty public service buildings, to build up to 102,000 homes. This means the government is already well on track to exceed the Prime Minister
    ambition to release enough surplus land for 100,000 homes by 2015
    -with more to follow.

    Organisations across the public services, including the NHS, Ministry of Defence and Department for Transport, will now play a critical role in helping to build the new homes that the communities want and that the country needs. Just over 635,000 homes in England are empty, and around 216,000 of those have empty for over 6months.

    Eastleigh has empty offices and the Law Courts – and Woodside Ave
    and you want to destroy our green and pleasant land. Shame on you!!!!
    Sam

  12. Anne Romaine on November 4, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    Cllr Bicknell says “where would the political opponents, who oppose everything at every turn, put the houses?”. If the Lib Dems were to give those political opponents full access to all the background information etc they had perhaps the other parties could come up with a better plan.

  13. rigel on November 5, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    Ford transit plant swaythling 43acres……
    I am not a political opponent Bicknell

    all political parties stop people getting
    involved with community decisions.

    http://www.landsouthofchestnut.wordpress.com

  14. Matthew Myatt on November 6, 2014 at 1:07 am

    Sorry to say it but until the voters in Eastleigh STOP voting FIB DEM, nothing will change. Well that’s not true, green belt land will change. Just you watch.!! Its so simple, STOP VOTING FOR THE FIB DEMS.!!

  15. Stuart on November 6, 2014 at 8:05 am

    As the figures show, only a hardcore minority of people vote lib dem in Eastleigh – They get in because of consistently low turnouts and the even spread of the opposition. They only stay in power because their various regular publications keep enough of a core vote to see them over the line – so it would take a really major series of disasters to unseat them. Unfortunately the FPTP system favours the party who can throw the most money and resources at the voting electorate – In Eastleigh that is the Lib Dems, at the moment – The other parties seem unwilling to invest the necessary resources needed to unseat them. I’m not sure any of the other major parties could be trusted with saving our green spaces either – they are all merely pawns in the game, kissing the backside above them. Only a large local campaign by local residents might have an impact – politicians will suddenly have a change of mind, only if it looks beneficial to themselves – self interest is their watchword.

  16. rigel on November 6, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    good local discussion / comments regarding this here:

    https://www.streetlife.com/conversation/13zptqt3fw23q/3/

    Pat Ford and ‘Save stoneham park’ are doing nothing and have let everyone down by pretending to campaign , look at the article there is no contact details, no ‘get involved’

    http://www.landsouthofchestnut.wordpress.com

  17. Sam on November 7, 2014 at 12:42 am

    Nigel, ‘Save Stoneham Park’.
    YOUR comments regards Pat Ford. I know Pat and the group have worked extremely hard. Do you enjoy telling liars and upsetting people.
    who trying to save “Stoneham Park” I would suggest you obliges and stop telling liars.
    Sam

  18. rigel on November 7, 2014 at 5:39 pm

    As you know my name is Rigel, sorry if it is inconvenient but I was not consulted.

    I asked Pat to back me up when I present my criticisms of ‘housing need’ to the government inspector on tuesday – she refused , I even offered to pay for posters to go up on Chestnut avenue ,she was not interested.

    Rather than letting me help she said I have to start my own campaign……. so I have.

    also ‘save stoneham park’ is a daft name because the ‘park’ – avenue park will not be developed.

    your contribution to the video is ‘it’s lovely here when it’s sunny’ are you going to present those findings to the planning inspectorate? I don’t think they are material considerations.

    no I don’t enjoy upsetting people but if they are no good it is necessary.

    You are welcome to get involved with my campaign , I need all the help I can get – if you know anything about hydrology you are very useful to it.

    so call me 07969808247 or email me back
    http://www.landsouthofchestnut.wordpress.com

    • Stephen Slominski on November 8, 2014 at 1:03 pm

      I’m pretty sure the entire area south of Chestnut Avenue was part of the Stoneham Park Estate and was known as Stoneham Park.

      • rigel on November 8, 2014 at 8:18 pm

        Youre probably right ,.. I thought ‘save stoneham park 2’
        would be pants.

        as an ex ford worker what do you think about the swaythling site for housing ? 43 acres it is , and longbridge after 10 years trying to find a major industrial has now become a mix of retail / housing/ business – why don’t soton/eastleigh combine and do it now instead of eating up countryside ?

        • Eastleigh Xpress on November 9, 2014 at 11:31 pm

          They can’t develop it now because Ford still hold the lease and are not finished with the site.

          • rigel on November 10, 2014 at 8:20 am

            Are you interested in publishing an article with quotes from soton cc/ Ford/ EBC and those involved with Longbridge so the people have a clear picture.

            brownfield development is favorable to most people don’t you agree ?

        • Finn on November 12, 2014 at 2:27 pm

          Nigel, as Mr Slominski points out Stoneham Park is the whole area – not just Avenue Park.
          The Save Stoneham Park website appears to have been online since Feb 2012, when I assume the Campaign began. Where have you been all this time?, why did you not start your campaign when the plan first came out?, why not when the second plan came out?, why now when it’s got so late in the game?
          Made me smile seeing Save Stoneham Park featuring on BBC1 today, where were you and your campaign?
          Nigel it’s really too little too late I fear, only standing up to be counted once the developers move in…
          I hope you can prove us all wrong.

          Finn

  19. Sam on November 7, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    “Stoneham” “The Garden of Eden”

    Councillors or members are elected by local people to plan, run, monitor and develop council business. This includes taking part in partners- ships
    with others. Councillors work to improve the quality of life for people within the Eastleigh Area.

    The role of a councillor can be varied and its up to each individual councillor how they work. However, many councillors see their first and
    foremost role, as representing their ward and the people who live there.

    However South Ward Councillor Paul Bicknell has said: I support plans
    to build more homes at Stoneham Park, without any consultation with
    his constituents.

    Councillor Bicknell Chairman of ELAC has not listened to local people, or his colleagues, he should step down as chair for Eastleigh Local Area Committee. He Biased!!!! and is not representing local people.

  20. James Penders on November 8, 2014 at 7:09 am

    After checking the ELAC reports for last month, the attendance at the meeting from concerned residents was a staggering number of, just close to and almost exceeding the last meeting, of….. 0. If you are so concerned by the abuse of power by your elected politicos, then go and debate with them, thats why we pay them £6,500 a year, so we can ask the questions on matters that will effect our lifes. Just by electing someone to political post does not mean you have to negate your own views throughout the 4/5 term. Attend the Cabinet meeting, attend the ELAC meetings, get involved on a personal level, you dont need to be party to any politics.

    • rigel on November 8, 2014 at 1:42 pm

      James I agree – I have kids and cannot get to council meetings , do you have a blog where I can read your updates, people think they cant do anything but all it takes is one successful campaign to show them we can, call me – 07969808247

  21. rigel on November 8, 2014 at 7:22 am

    and importantly EBC entered into an agreement with HCC and us in 1994 to protect the ‘strategic gap’ , with this draft plan they renege on that deal. It becomes just a ‘gap’

    They have a duty to consult residents, but they did not consult us about this strategic decision, that is why I have spent my time deconstructing ‘housing need’ because it is their reason for their U turn, and it is fallacious

    It is our duty to bring the facts to the table, highlight their mistakes and hold Councillors to account.

  22. James Penders on November 8, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    The debate to build more housing in Eastleigh is very much on the minds of all of us as the pressure mounts, to build for our growing population.

    The objectors to more housing being built are people who live in houses.

    What is undeniable is that more housing will need to be built, but what needs to be discussed is what type of community housing should we build?
    I would advocate that Local Authorities should build for its residents to assist in improving their neighbourhoods and ensuring that they provide and deliver decent services, for the removal of the borrowing cap to allow this to happen.
    I would also abolish the “right to buy”, and prevent private Landlords entering in to the social housing sector, in favour of Housing associations. I would also spread the build across all regions of Eastleigh and if this means relaxing the green belt then so be it. The last time this country built such numbers was in 1968 and half of the homes were for social rent. The private sector simply cannot build enough homes to meet the need on its own.
    How can this be achieved? By removing the borrowing cap for local authorities and changing the accounting rules on public sector borrowing to bring us into line with the rest of the world. The government needs to use public investment up front to enable Housing Associations to build homes at scale – in other words we need Bricks not Benefits.

    What impact will this have? We can charge lower rents, and thus a lower housing benefit bill, alongside tenants having disposable income which they can spend in local economies creating more jobs.
    What can those in houses do to help? Pass resolutions and set frame works for the building of social/HA in our communities, and ensure you get the residents to register to vote, because you don’t want to revisit this crisis again in 30 years time.

    • Hedge End Blogger on November 8, 2014 at 11:41 pm

      It’s not just the type of housing to be built, it’s the type of land being built on. The Lib Dems have chosen to build on high quality recreational and agricultural land with no public transport infrastructure while ignoring virtual brown field locations with excellent public transport links.

  23. rigel on November 8, 2014 at 7:16 pm

    How on earth does the ‘crisis’ not revisit with the current methodology

    you want a 100% state debt answer to ‘housing need’

    but the state has no money , taxpayers have money. Even the lib dem developer funded business as usual plan splits debt between private and first wessex. , so both bail out the council

    First wessex have had 2 weeks to tell me their arrears figure – no joy /;
    ‘affordability’ can be tested by HA arrears but we can’t know.

    do you see EBC’s £60m debt as repayable ? you are a labour party candidate (?)

    explain how ebc’s debt is gonna be repayed first ,

    then explain how we need loads more

    Instead of moving into the empty office block EBC should have put cheap barebones flats for sale to the housing list. with only consumer unit , cold feed and soil pipe

    call me james 07969808247

  24. Sam on November 12, 2014 at 5:47 pm

    Between 2008-2011, the War Shine was restored to provide a focus
    for the preserved land scape, and importantly-to encourage conservation of the park-land. The parklands future seemed more secure, BUT in 2012
    Eastleigh Liberal Democrats- Voted for the entire area to be schedule for
    development in the forthcoming Local plan, without any consultation with
    local people.

    Efforts should be made to prevent any future deprivations , and attempts
    to bring back as much of this scape into public ownership as possible, for
    use a recreational, and above all, unique educational resource that it
    represents. There a few other places in the United Kingdom where so much unbroken continuity in the landscape can be demonstrated to the
    public.

  25. Sam on November 13, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    “Fleming Park “Park Land”
    Chair of Eastleigh Local Area- Committee Cllr Paul Bicknell said:
    We are committed to improving the Park Land area and making it
    more accessible. The picture shows the second hole on the Golf
    Course at North End Copse, “Not Fleming Park.”

    Since the Lib Dems closed our Golf Course, promise’s were and never kept. Its time the Lib -Fibs stopped making promises and misleading local people.
    Sam

    • Bernie on November 14, 2014 at 4:37 pm

      No Sam, its time Eastleigh people woke up and didn’t vote for the fib dem liars.

      We need to get the word out about what these arrogant politicos are doing so that they aren’t voted in by their cronies at each election and people who genuinely care about the area and its people are.

  26. therigel on November 13, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    sam repeating the same criticisms on a blog comment doesn’t cut it – we need a ‘body of work’ to save stoneham park.

    so get involved – you say that you know about water issues .

    find out about the springs up there !

    find a hydrologists report and get an authoritative independent interpretation

    or say you can’t do that type of work and find someone who can.

    can anyone else reading help with this ?

    the other thing I need is an email list of about 10,000 people anyone can pitch in with that ! – 07969808247

  27. Sam on November 13, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Rigel
    Your on your own, its a shame-but you can’t keep
    upsetting people who are trying to save Stoneham Park.
    Sam

  28. therigel on November 14, 2014 at 4:55 pm

    as I said previously sam ‘It’s lovely here when it’s sunny’ will not stop the development – the houses will be just as lovely in the sunshine.

    only a ‘body of work’ does it – and very few people are willing to do the work, moaning just wastes our time

    I don’t care who the truth upsets

  29. Sam on November 14, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    MP Mike Thornton stands up for our countryside.
    Local MP Mike Thornton has started a campaign to ensure Allington
    Lane is protected and UKIPs plan for 4000 houses is stopped.

    Mike said, “UKIPs 4000 house plan would destroy precious countryside that local people and campaigners have worked so hard to save over many years. “Eastleigh Borough Council have published a plan to save Allington Lane and many other sites around the Borough from building, but UKIP seem determined to destroy the gaps between our villages.
    Sam

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