Beer and Baccy seek tax boost for pubs and OAPs

Ray Hall the Beer, Baccy and Scratchings party candidate brought his Election campaign to the Town Centre last week.

Hall accompanied by his campaign manager – local blogger and citizen journalist Ray Turner – have been leafteing around the clock to get the fledgling party’s manifesto through as many doors as possible.

Recently Ray Hall was forced to rebrand his party after the Electoral Commision said the name “Beer,Baccy and Crumpet Party” was sexisit and that the word crumpet could cause offence.

But the Commissioners  decided that the term “Scratchings’ could be permitted.

‘Scratchings’ are a Black Country delicacy made from pork rind.

During the 2013 Eastleigh by election Ray Hall, who is a self-employed silversmith, stood as a crumpeteer, and came seventh out of 14 candidates outpolling a Christian Party candidate, the English Democrats and the Socialist TUSC.

Hall was also voted the candidate most preferred by Barton Peveril students during an election event held on the campus.

At the moment the party is funded solely out of Hall’s own pocket though he is keen for potential donors to come forward (Pork Scratching companies?)

The Beer and Baccy slogan is “no one should go to bed cold and hungry or wake without hope’ and policies include :

  • Zero rating VAT on draught beer to help pubs to compete with supermarket alcohol sales – although this isn’t possible under EU regulations.
  • Re-introduce a 10p starter tax rate
  • Cap immigration – the cap to be relative to total population size in UK
  • Increase pensions, benefits and minimum wage via indexation – Hall said this would be ‘self-funding’ – increased spending by recipients would stimulate the wider economy.
  • Reduce motoring and parking penalties
  • Regenerate ship building – government subsidies to entice shipbuilding back, an activity Hall thinks will drive National prosperity.
  • “Create a fairer society for the whole of society.”

Along with the TUSC candidate Declan Clune, Hall was excluded from the hustings at Hedge End last week because, organisers said, the party did not previously have any MPs – a decision Ray Turner branded as “disgusting” and “undemocratic.”

The Beer and Baccy party also failed to receive an invitation to the hustings held at the Old Courthouse.

Hall told Eastleigh News he hoped his campaign would interest people and more potential candidates would come forward to stand in future elections.

The following candidates are also standing in the Eastleigh Parliamentary Election:

Declan Clune – TUSC

Mark Latham- Labour

Mike Thornton – Liberal Democrat

Mims Davies- Conservative

Patricia Culligan -Ukip

Ron Meldrum – Greens

  10 comments for “Beer and Baccy seek tax boost for pubs and OAPs

  1. Sue
    May 4, 2015 at 9:22 am

    Bringing ship building back would provide real apprenticeships, teaching real trades and then providing g a real job after. The apprenticeships being created at the moment are just an excuse (mostly) to pay £2 odd an hour for 6 months to teach a person to do street cleaning etc then sack them and take on another. I also agree with an increase in all benefits ——– recipients spend that money right back into the local community generally. I think the drink drive laws are putting an end to a lot if pubs. I think it would be great if they could be integrated more into the local community and host lots of local groups meetings etc? Not sure re helping cars? I don’t agree with simply pricing the poorer people out of driving but I would like to reduce the necessity to drive? Last week my friend waited an hour at the bus stop for a bus to get to Soton. A young lad, also there, missed a dentist appt.

    • May 4, 2015 at 11:03 am

      I agree about shipbuilding but why stop there? How about government subsidies for car makers too? Wouldn’t it be great if we could entice Ford with a load of cash to bring back the Transit factory back from Turkey? Or BAT cigarettes back from China to Southampton? What about getting Dyson back from Malaysia or Twinings Tea back to Andover from Poland where the Courage brewery at Reading also relocated to?
      Problem is that it is against EU competition regulations for member states to bribe corporations with subsidies.
      As things stand, We can’t do it.
      But where would the money come from? Would this be ‘self financing’ too? We would need pretty big subsidies to compete with the EU and China..and once you start that game you are forever hostage to corporations coming back for more
      “Unless we get $$$$$$$$ we are pulling out” etc
      Mind you, at that point, we could always nationalise the lot.
      That’d work wouldn’t it?

      • Sue
        May 4, 2015 at 9:17 pm

        how about building nationalised industries in this country? Suppose they just broke even and didnt make a profit we’d still have skilled jobs and real apprenticeships and people in good jobs with decent pensions etc? If they did make a profit then that profit could be ploughed into even more nationalised industries? We’d be creating real solid jobs, reducing unemployment, reducing the need for tax credits and top up housing benefit etc

        • mm
          Eastleigh Xpress
          May 4, 2015 at 10:15 pm

          The problem is we can’t make anything here that can’t be made cheaper abroad.
          We are a post industrial economy.

          • Sue
            May 5, 2015 at 2:09 pm

            We could focus on high quality and without the need for profit our products would be cheap

  2. May 4, 2015 at 9:57 am

    I don’t consider myself the Campaign Manager for Beer, Baccy & Scratchings, merely an assistant helping to get leaflets through as many doors as possible and helping with a little bit of IT here and there. We’ve never discussed a formal title and I don’t really have one. Not so far as this campaign is concerned.

    At the end of the day, I’m just helping an elderly Gentleman in Hedge End with his ambition to stand in the General Election and give the people of Eastleigh another choice, disrupting the usual status quo. I’m all for that and happy to help, if he is prepared to fund the campaign.

    Who am I to deny anybody who wants to stand in the General Election…?

    • May 4, 2015 at 10:17 am

      Though as I have noted elsewhere, I have agreed to take on the role of Nominating Officer in future.

      This means that we might be fielding a Beer, Baccy & Scratchings candidate in future local elections too. I will not stand as an Independent whilst I’m listed on the Electoral Commission website as an Officer of Beer Baccy & Scratchings.

      Though as things stand as I write this, the Electoral Commission website has not been updated to reflect that change. See

      So if anybody else wants to stand locally for Beer, Baccy & Scratchings, do get in touch..!

      • mm
        Eastleigh Xpress
        May 4, 2015 at 10:33 am

        Well, thanks for clearing that up!

  3. mm
    Eastleigh Xpress
    May 4, 2015 at 10:42 am

    In a constituency where, in 2005 less than 500 votes separated the Lib Dems and the Conservatives, votes for the smaller parties like Ray’s can make a difference, which is why of course the major parties have been going all out to woo the undecided and disaffected in a seat described by Dimbleby as a ‘key battleground’.

    • May 4, 2015 at 6:01 pm

      Agreed, however it would be nice if Ray Hall were elected and Eastleigh had an MP who was free to ask all the awkward questions in Westminster, which Lib/Lab/Con and their Whips would prefer to be swept under the carpet.

      These smaller parties are so much more than a protest vote…

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